ENDURANCE GB SOUTH EAST GROUP
HELD ON SATURDAY 13TH DECEMBER
2003
AT THE HAWTH, CRAWLEY, WEST SUSSEX
COMMITTEE Margaret
Montgomerie Nicola Cramond
PRESENT: Liz
Walton Leo
Davenport
Peter
Davenport Andrea Baker
Georgie
Calcutt
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APOLOGIES |
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Apologies were received from Rita
Dingwall, Ann Van Ross, Selena Tilley, Claudia Christopher, Jenny Anderson,
Joyce Whatley, Su Baldry, Maggie Pattinson, Kim Carter & Carol McLean. |
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MINUTES OF ANNUAL GENERAL
MEETING 7TH DECEMBER 2002 |
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These were agreed and signed. Proposed by Jane Cook and seconded by
Sally Clay. |
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MATTERS ARISING |
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There were no matters arising. |
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CHAIRMAN’S REPORT |
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Margaret Montgomerie gave the following
report:- Good evening ladies and gentlemen. It is good to see so many of you here for
the SE AGM and Awards evening at the end of the second year of EGB. I am very pleased to report that this has
been another successful year. I will
give a brief resume from the National AGM at the end of my report. |
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In the SE the season started with three
very successful training rides. These
were very well supported. Many thanks
to the organisers and their helpers.
They certainly got the season off to a good start for many of you. |
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We tried to put on some training
opportunities but these were not as well supported as we had hoped. We cancelled “How to Progress in Endurance
Riding” through lack of support.
However, the “Heart Rate Monitor & Vet Gate Training Day” was
voted a big success by all who attended.
Hopefully some who gained experience on manning vet gates will help
with vet gates in 2004. The last
event of the season was a very successful “Ride Organiser & Helpers
Day”. It was quite an eye opener for
some people and everyone learned something from it, even the old stagers! |
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Please let the Committee know what you
want. We are prepared to organise but
we need to know what you want. Some
training events are already in hand for 2004. |
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The SE had ten competitive rides in
2003. These started in March with a
very successful Primrose Ride.
Unfortunately the next ride, Devil’s Dyke, planned for April, had to
be postponed due to EVH-1 virus, but was reorganised in October to finish the
season on a good note. Next ride was
Berkshire Downs in May and this brought success to Offa’s Dyke members in the
ER classes and to SE members in the GR classes. June was a very busy month with three SE rides, starting with
Plumpton, then Fontwell FEI (Arabian Festival) and Ride the Wight. Unfortunately these last two clashed –
this won’t happen in 2004. In July we
had Glassenbury and this was followed by Ashdown Forest and Hornshill in
August, then Firle Park in September.
Unfortunately the Fontwell Ride (ER classes only) at the end of
September had to be cancelled due to lack of entries. All the rides run were very successful,
although the weather on many was rather on the hot side for both horses and
riders. Many rides were oversubscribed,
especially early in the season, causing disappointment to some riders. Congratulations to all who were successful
during the year – from those doing their first Novice ride to those doing the
longer ER’s. The year will be
remembered for its hot weather and hard ground. |
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In 2004 there will be an opening date for
entries. This will avoid organisers
having very early entries and will also stop some riders entering rides for
the whole season and then cancelling some of the entries later, resulting in
some rides running with less entries than they had been organised for. It will remain with ride organisers to
decide how they will ‘manage’ oversubscribed entries. |
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We would benefit from more rides in the
SE. We need more organisers to
increase the number of rides!
Established ride organisers are always prepared to offer advice and
help if you want to volunteer.
Remember all the current ride organisers ran their first ride
sometime! Can some of you put on
pleasure/training rides in 2004 with a view to possibly running a competitive
ride in 2005? |
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During the year the number of people
taking part in team competitions has been disappointing. We had no team for Team Spirit at Lindum
or the Inter Regional team competition.
There was no SE representative in the Home International though
several people did have their names forward.
It is at Red Dragon next year so hopefully SE will have someone in the
team. However on the International
scene we were represented by Sally Payton on the Intermediate team, which
went to Compeigne, France.
Congratulations Sally on your success. |
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I would like to take this opportunity to
give a very big thank you to all who made the year go well. Remember without all the volunteers like
ride organisers, helpers, crews, farmers and sponsors, there would be no
rides for us to take part in. I would
also like to give a special thanks to the Committee for their support during
the year – without them there would be no SE Group. Unfortunately three have decided to stand down – Nicola
Cramond, Andrea Baker & Joyce Whatley – so a special thank you to them
for all their hard work over many years.
They will all be involved in organising and helping at rides in 2004
and hopefully we will see them back on the committee sometime in the future. |
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Can I leave you with some points to
consider: ·
We need
more organisers and helpers for rides and other events. ·
We need
more technical stewards – offer to help experienced TS’s and gain experience. ·
What events
do you want organised? – we need feedback from you. ·
Always be
cheerful and thank people, be it organisers, helpers, people at gates etc. ·
Always ride
considerately. |
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Can I wish you all the best for the
Festive Season and for 2004. See you
on the ‘trail’ next season. |
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Margaret then gave a brief outline of the
national AGM which was held on 29th November. The five members elected to the
Management Committee were Wendy Dunham (who has now become Chairman), Derek
Grantham, Len Beech, Deb Bennett and our own Des Payton. The members proposals which were carried
were read out. Susan Hawes reminded
Margaret that a proposal to allow prize money was also passed. The Ride Organisers’ Conference will be
on Saturday 17 January 2004 at Kenilworth School. |
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SECRETARY’S REPORT |
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Leo Davenport gave the following report:- During the last year, the Committee of
ten has held five meetings, in January, March, June, September &
November, at The Red Lion in Bletchingley which kindly allows us to take over
their round table in the restaurant for the evening, as well as feeding the
greedy amongst us beforehand. Margaret has already outlined the
training and competitive rides run by the Group in 2003 and the ride
organisers’ conference day at Chertsey put on by Maggie and Andrea. This proved to be a very successful and
enjoyable day which hopefully will inspire and encourage lots more of you to
run training and competitive rides in the future. I answer a fairly steady stream of
enquiries from new interested people.
As many of you will read, Su Baldry has been busy producing our
quarterly newsletter this year. This currently
has 163 subscribers with 41 keen people already signed up for 2004. A job you can do tonight if you care to
visit Peter with your chequebook.
Still £7.50 for the 4 issues.
Out of interest there are currently 319 national EGB members in the
South East, made up of 8 juniors, 16 young riders, 34 life members, 243
riding members and 18 non-riding members.
The South East has 282 registered horses of which 116 are Novice, 76
Intermediate and 89 are Advanced. |
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TREASURER’S REPORT |
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Peter Davenport advised that a copy of
the accounts had been placed on each seat.
He went through the details of the Group accounts to the end of August
2003 as submitted to EGB, and also updated the picture up to the current
period at end of December. The basic
message was that the Group has been very successful financially. The organisers of the training rides were
particularly thanked for their significant contributions to Group
income. Thanks were also given to
Paul Ewing of Horse Health (Sussex & Surrey) Ltd for his generous
sponsorship of the awards at this meeting both last year and this. The Committee were also thanked for their
abstemious requests for expenses. On
the outgoings side, some new ride equipment had been purchased, particularly
horses crossing signs. The website,
superbly run by Julia Harman, has generated lots of interest and enquiries,
and the hosting agreement has been renewed for a further two years, thus
gaining a discounted rate. A donation
was received from the Arab Horse Society recognising the role of endurance as
a showcase for the talents of the arabian horse. Full details of how the Committee propose to use this money
will be given in the January newsletter.
Two raffle prizes had been purchased, one for £25 for the national AGM
raffle, and a Marks & Spencer £50 voucher to be raffled tonight. The cost of the meal tonight has been
subsidised by £3.98 per ticket and all ride organisers have been given a free
ticket as a thank you and an encouragement for next year. The Group intends to purchase some better
venue and directional signs of a similar format to the horses crossing ones. Peter then asked for questions and views
from the floor. Kevin Hawes questioned whether the cost
of the newsletter would be covered by the subscription next year. The Committee were happy to continue to
contribute from Group funds whenever there is sufficient information needing
to be included to increase the size and therefore costs of the newsletter. The SE newsletter is one of the best in
the country in terms of content and contributions. Gilly Payton asked what had been done to
contact SE members who do not subscribe to the newsletter. Peter said that a letter detailing Group
activities/newsletter/trophies had been sent last year but there had been a
very poor response with only 6 replies from 90+ letters sent. The national office does make all new
members aware of which group area they are in and the SE website is
particularly helpful in alerting new members to the newsletter etc. The Committee will discuss this problem at
the next meeting. Sally Payton asked if the first
newsletter could be given free to all SE EGB members every year and the other
3 issues just go to those who subsequently subscribed. The committee will investigate this idea. Paul Titcomb suggested the newsletter
could be better advertised at SE rides.
Peter replied that a poster is put on the ride noticeboard in most
cases but agreed to investigate if this can be improved to be more
noticeable. Kevin Hawes questioned whether the Stoneleigh
office could send out something from the Group to all new SE members. The Committee will investigate this. Sally Payton asked that a set of extra
bibs be provided for crews of ER riders.
Margaret and Des Payton confirmed that this was to be included in
national rules for 2004, not necessarily bibs, perhaps armbands or paper
numbers. Kevin Hawes reminded us that
some crews are bigger than their riders and do not easily and quickly fit
into the same number bib. Sallie
Dudley offered the group a set of old style plastic bibs which take paper
number inserts. The accounts were passed, proposed by
Kevin Hawes and seconded by Jane Cook. |
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ELECTION OF COMMITTEE. |
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Margaret Montgomerie, Liz Walton and Leo
Davenport are retiring by rotation and offering themselves for re-election. Nicola Cramond, Joyce Whatley and Andrea
Baker have tendered their resignations.
Margaret thanked them for their contributions to the Committee. Two nominations have been received: ·
Jane Cook,
proposed by Nicola Cramond and seconded by Carol McLean. ·
Linda
Burrows, proposed by Georgie Calcutt and seconded by Leo Davenport. Jane, Linda, Margaret, Liz and Leo were
unanimously elected to the Committee. Margaret welcomed Jane and Linda on to
the Committee and said that the date for the next committee meeting in
January will be agreed at the end of this meeting. |
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PROPOSALS. |
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We need a
carrot as well as a stick to encourage members to help at rides. ‘No help – no trophy’ is the stick and
gets help at one ride, but only one. I propose, therefore, that help at subsequent rides be rewarded
with South East Points for Neddy on his yellow card. A guaranteed say 20 or 30 South East
Points every time Neddy is left at home and his people help instead may
persuade more of us, when we can’t do a ride, to come along anyway and help
out. Proposed
by Kay Anstey. Membership No. 10943. Seconded
by Liz Walton. Membership No. 10889. Kay supported her proposal stating that
she wants to encourage people to help at more rides than just the initial
compulsory one and that extra points would be an incentive and a thank you. Andrea Baker agreed that ride organisers
desperately need more helpers but she was worried that, as trophies are horse
based, extra points could lead to a situation where trophies were won by
horses which were not the true winners.
She proposed awarding a trophy and placings to the people helping the
most during a season. Nicola Cramond reiterated how serious a
problem finding adequate help can be for a ride organiser. Rosemary Attfield suggested awarding
rosettes with helper points on them. Ann Campbell suggested collecting points
for discounted ride entries. Karen Carruthers asked that specific
pleas for help at particular rides be included in the newsletter, rather than
just a general overall plea which tends to get ignored. Margaret Fogg kindly offered to donate a
helpers trophy if it is decided to be a good idea. Ann Campbell and others mentioned ringing
and offering to help, leaving messages on answerphones and getting no
response. It was agreed that there
were a number of errors in organiser’s phone numbers in the omnibus schedule. Gilly Payton suggested a scheme for
accumulating helper points leading to the awarding of a badge, rather like
Pony Club star system. Susan Hawes suggested a loyalty scheme. Ursula Wanostrocht would be happy to help
at rides when bringing horses. Ann Campbell suggested a system of
members nominating a ride and alternatives that they would be happy to help
at and this could be passed to the organisers. Kevin Hawes questioned what would be the
response if organisers rang members direct and asked them to help. Liz Walton had tried this and about one
third agreed to help. Sallie Dudley
asked if organisers not on the committee could have a copy of the subscribers
list. Data protection was queried but
Gilly Payton thought this would not apply as the list would be being used by
the organisation for it’s primary purpose.
Rosemary Attfield asked that email addresses be included. Kay Anstey agreed to withdraw her
proposal and leave it to the committee to discuss and decide on a suitable
rewards scheme. The details will be
published in the next newsletter. |
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ANY OTHER BUSINESS. |
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Margaret Montgomerie. Two early season training sessions are
being arranged. There will be a nationally arranged
training day taking your horse on 1st February at Woolgars, 9-5pm
approx. This has been subsidised by
EGB and a saddlers grant and will cost approx £20. It will include assessment by vet, farrier, 1 hour riding
lesson, HRM training & pacing, plus crew training, followed by a general
forum started by the vet in the afternoon.
Names to Rosemary Attfield by the last week of January. Secondly there will be a training day
without the horse, later in February, to cover map reading and other
topics. Full details will be in the
next newsletter. Sallie Dudley, Firle ride organiser, made
a plea for competitors to let ride organisers know when they intend to
withdraw from a ride. She outlined
the problems she had found booking sufficient vets for 84 entries, she had
six phonecalls to withdraw, but only 62 riders actually came on the day, thus
wasting the services of one vet. Susan Hawes stated that the Ashdown
Forest ride will not be run in 2004 as the Conservators have imposed a charge
of £10 per rider and this would not be economic as the ride only made a small
profit last year. Linda Burrows
stated that she is looking into ways of resurrecting the ride and has a
meeting with Hew Prendergast, Forest Superintendant next week. She asked how much riders would be
prepared to pay as a surcharge. £10
on top of the entry fee was generally felt to be too much but Gilly Payton
thought people would probably pay up to £5.
Kevin Hawes suggested that if an alternative venue could be found
which included toilets and other facilities which have to be imported to the
Forest venue, that might reduce costs and give a little more room for
manoeuvre in the negotiations. Margaret thanked all ride and event
organisers for all the help they have given the group over the season. The meeting closed at 8.15 pm. Trophies, rosettes and distance awards
from the national awards evening which had not been collected on the night
were presented to their winners. A buffet supper followed which was
enjoyed by 82 members. After this, Paul Ewing of Horse Health
(Sussex & Surrey) Ltd presented the distance rosettes and Group awards. The evening concluded with a successful
raffle in aid of Group funds. |